Monday, July 20, 2020

Hell and Limbo 2

Hell and Limbo



My uncle and I reached for our scapulars which clung around our necks, we grasped them and closed our eyes as we prayed a thanksgiving. 
Father Wolfferger explained 
"The beetles had been attracted to you because of your predominant fault of sloth and the snakes had been attracted to my uncle because of his predominant fault of vain glory."
“The vermin at the gates here can 'smell' the state of your soul. Each has its favorite stench. The longer you are there the more The stench of sin and vice ferments, and thus the greater appeal you have. It begins with the vermin, but there are much bigger and more sinister things that would have soon come for you.” 

Anita's uncle asked "So, we're in Hell and near the Gates of Hell?' After Vatican II, they pretty much said no one was in Hell or Limbo?'

Father Wolfferger laughed and said "You may meet some of the Modernist who said that in your journey though Hell."   

Fred replied, "Might through invisible ignorance some of them be in Limbo? Didn't the Protestant C. S. Lewis have a demon write, 'The difficulty lay in their very smallness and flabbiness. Here were vermin so muddled in mind, so passively responsive to environment, that it was very hard to raise them to that level of clarity and deliberateness at which mortal sin becomes possible. To raise them just enough; but not that fatal millimetre of “too much.” For then, of course, all would possibly have been lost. They might have seen; they might have repented. On the other hand, if they had been raised too little, they would very possibly have qualified for Limbo, as creatures suitable neither for Heaven nor for Hell; things that, having failed to make the grade, are allowed to sink into a more or less contented subhumanity forever."

Father with a ironic look said, " You're a real amateur theologian I can see. You'll probably be meeting Lewis on your journey."  
 
Fred, smiling, asked:
 
"Talking about theologians, in one of your YouTube videos didn't you say unbaptized babies probably couldn't go to Heaven. But, the great theologian Cardinal Cajetan said the  baptism of desire of responsible Catholic parents could open the way to heaven and the Council of Trent refused to condemn him."      
 
Are Cajetan and Lewis in Limbo or Purgatory or Heaven or is this a dream? Lewis in another book said of a journey like this that 'Do not ask of a vision in a dream more than a vision in a dream can give.' In other words, his vision was only a dream. Are we in a dream?"

Wolfferger replied, "Mr. Questions: No, you are not in a dream. The earth is more like the movie the Matrix where there is a real reality underneath the illusions produced by sinful nature and the mass cultural and media propaganda machine. Here the air is clearer in a sense and you see reality clearer than you could on earth. You'll understand more of this at the end of your journey.
 
"But in the mean time, I will lead you both to a ferry that will carry you out of here. It will cross a large, dark body of water and drop you off at the shores of purgatory from where you'll catch a bus. By the way, don't be surprised if you talk to Cardinal Cajetan and some other great theologians, Mr. Questions "

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