Thursday, September 24, 2020

Thomist Antidote, Scotus, de Lubac's Christ's Redemption by His crucifixion and resurrection are rendered meaningless

On Tue, Dec 24, 2019, 10:28 PM mrtnzfred@aol.com <mrtnzfred@aol.com> wrote:
Jim,

Sorry it took so long to get bank. Went on vacation. 

Your life story was a real eye opener.

How do you explain your tempation to desire (or will) non existence as against Thomistic teaching as you mentioned?

Any books you recommend on Thomistic metaphysics on what constitutes substance?

I have been researching Scotus who was deeply intelligent, but in my opinion he went wrong, if I am getting him correctly and if the scholars I listened to are conveying him correctly, by placing will over intellect and his strange idea against Thomistic viva negativa and rejecting we know God by analogy but somehow can know God directly in some way. 

It almost resembles Nietzsche's will to power except Scotus accepts reason and de Lubac's everything is grace thereby reducing everything to nature so grace is not a gift but a necessity of nature in which the Catholic Church and Christ's Redemption by His crucifixion and resurrection are rendered meaningless or as one of many ways to God except Scotus would reject those things because his accepted the faith. Unfortunately, I think his ideas had consequences which may have lead to this ideas. 

I did find his proof of God interesting.

Merry Christmas,

Fred





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Fred,

This article (except probably for the introductory note, added in order to make it relevant to what is now occurring) was written over a decade ago. It was the backbone of what I was trying to do with the War Against Being website.

No, regrettably, I have not put anything together for children, although I have taught it somewhat to a few homes-schoolers in the past. 

I read Chesterton's The Dumb Ox years ago, along with his book on St. Francis. I remember thinking that some of his insights were good. I haven't read much of Chesterton, but in what I have read I usually come away irritated and unsatisfied. His insights, while being piquant and often touching on the surface of profound truths, yet seem to me to be established in cleverness of expression (often paradoxical) and frustratingly lacking in depth. His obvious ability to use the English language may convince for a while, but his lack of metaphysical depth does not fully convinces,or provide the clarity of intellectual vision  in order to truly perceive the depths of reality. Ultimately, I believe that in the intellectual realm,this vision can only be obtained through understanding the depths of Thomistic metaphysics, and especially what constitutes the substance of any created thing. Once this is understand, the human mind and heart are completely liberated from any false thinking or philosophy which seeks to capture the mind to reductive science. It restores everything to God. It restores divine poetry to all of God's creation. There is no poetry which can compete with Thomistic metaphysics actually seen, understood, and incorporated fully into an integral vision of all of reality. 

The strange part is that I was given a gift to see this, at least in seed form, even before I knew anything about Thomistic metaphysics. It came to me in the process of my own conversion, and through the Catholic dogma of Transubstantiation. I don't know if you ever read my autobiographical article titled Beauty (on the War Against Being website). It deals with this subject, and is found here: http://waragainstbeing.com/partviii/


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On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 11:15 PM mrtnzfred@aol.com <mrtnzfred@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Jim,

Going through your antidote post. It is extremely important. Have you done child version of it yet. As you see below I want to print it out and slowly hopefully summarize it and keep its essence while writing something that can get the average reader to read it and understand it with some help maybe from my niece. It will probably take a while. Have you read GK Chesterton's Dumb Ox? Would you say it is an attempt at this. Are there any authors you recommend in fiction or poetry or prose that get this across.Thanks for all.

In JMJ,

Fred


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Anita,

This is deep and slow reading but very important from a scholar friend of mine. Can you read and have Diego read? I want attempt to summarize and make readable by children and average reader. Thanks
http://rosarytotheinterior.com/the-antidote-to-teilhardian-evolution-the-restoration-of-the-supernatural-in-accord-with-the-teachings-of-st-thomas-aquinas/
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Scotus

Thanks as always for your kindness and sharing the fruit of your study.
 
But, getting back to the Kolbe stuff. The intelligent lady I am speaking with seems to really want me to join the Koble MI. She's a good Catholic, but she from a pro-life experience thinks apparently with the Franciscans that will comes before intellect. She is in contact with a big time Franciscan scholar. If our conversation continues I would like to send her some your scholarship on the matter without mentioning your name with your permission.

I have told her some of your problems with the Franciscans. She is smart and sincere and always has a intelligent reply. I am hoping to learn something and hopefully help her understand why Thomists have problems with the Franciscan theology.

Fred




Subject:Univocity, etc.

Fred,

I am very far from being an expert on Scotus, and have no desire to be so. But I would offer the following:

Employing "univocity" in relation to any terms used of both God and His creation necessarily terminates in some type of pantheistic-gnostic mush. Strictly speaking God is the only Being, in the sense of possessing Being of Himself. It is true that, in relation to created things, we do distinguish the category of substantial being from all the categories of accidental being by saying that it is something suited to exist "in itself". But this is a definition necessary to distinguish the category of  relative, created, substance from accidens, which are suited to exist only as inhering in substance. Without understanding the principle of analogy between all created things and God, we necessarily end up confusing the Thomistic concept of creative "participation" in being with the idea that creative things are somehow "part" of God. In other words, we destroy Catholic ontology (and all that is contained in the concept creation ex nihilo), and ultimately everything which is intimately connected to this ontology. Even sanctifying grace, and the entire concept of possessing the life of God in our souls, must be considered a created gift of God.

In regard to the so-called Franciscan doctrine which is usually now termed the "Absolute Primacy of Christ".

St. Thomas, while certainly being clear that the question has not been given final determination by the Church, yet declares his tentative opposition to this notion because Holy Scripture never offers any other reason for Christ's Incarnation other than that supreme Divine Love which "bends over" towards man in order to merit our redemption from sin. Christ Himself says, "Greater love than this no man hath, that a man lay down his life for his friends" (John 15:13). To attempt to assert therefore that through the proposed doctrine of "Absolute Primacy of Christ"(the notion that Incarnation would have occurred even without sin) they somehow possess a greater and deeper understanding of the primacy of Christ and the greatness of His love is indeed a "walking on thin ice".It smacks ultimately of placing some sort of "necessity" in God in relation to His creation.

Interestingly enough, Mary of Agreda (herself a Franciscan Conception), in the City of God, claims endorsement of this Franciscan theory as a private revelation from Christ (Vol. I, p.77). But even more interesting, she places "necessity" in God in relation to creation. Thus, she writes:

"The Majesty of God, beholding the nature of  his infinite perfection, their virtue and efficacy operating with magnificence, saw that it was just and most proper, and, as it were, , a necessity, to communicate Himself, and to follow the inclination of imparting and exercising his liberality and mercy, by distributing outside of Himself with magnificence, the plenitude of the infinite treasures, contained in the Divinity. For, being Infinite in all things, it is much more natural, that He communicate gifts and graces, than that fire should ascend, or the stone should gravitate toward its center, or that the sun should diffuse light." (ibid. p. 52)

So much for the total gratuitousness and freedom of God in relation to all of His gifts to man.

You might also be interested in reading my two-part fictional work The Mind of Antichrist, which is here:


The second part examines an interview conducted by Jacques Servais with Benedict XVI in 2015. He clearly rejects the traditional "Anselmian" view of the reason for Christ's Incarnation, and instead places necessity upon God for showing man mercy. Benedict of course has long been friendly to Augustinian and Franciscan sources for his theology, while very clearly and specifically renouncing Thomistic Metaphysics. Any embrace of Bonaventurian theology of emanation and return, for instance, absolutely places necessity in God in relation to His creation.


 

kolbe MI

Fred,

You asked me about the theology of St. Maximillian Kolbe and the MI. What is written below I would like not to be printed. I do not engage in arguments and polemics anymore, and with this subject, I’m sure there would be a very large contingent ready and willing to engage in much vehement controversy. I am old, and have much more important things to do at this time.

First, I hope you understand that, as should be evidenced from my writings, that I would never wish to be considered “backwards” in asserting anything contrary to all the glory that truly belongs to Mary and her Immaculate Conception. I do, however, find myself in disagreement with Franciscan theology, including that of St. Maximillian.

It is most fascinating that St. Francis, while explicitly stating his great respect for theologians, also forbade such “book-learning” to his Friars Minor. He named his Friars “minor” precisely because he completely believed that the extraordinary graces of both his Order and the individual vocations of individual friars was dependent upon them being and doing something uniquely different – living completely the grace of Lady Poverty not only in respect to physical things, but also in relation to such things as formal learning, positions of authority in the Church, etc. He in fact predicted that there would be a great falling away from this ideal, and that after time, and through chastisement by the Devil and the world, they would come back.

It makes sense therefore that Franciscan theologians, in their departure from this true charism and grace of Francis’ ideal, are so often “off-base” in their theology. I explored this in regard to St. Bonaventure in my long article on the history of Gnosticism titled Teilhardian Evolution and the Amazonian Synod: The Nest of the Antichrist. I have copied and pasted the relevant portion at the end of this email. This does not at all mean that he cannot be considered a Saint. The perfection of love of God can, and often does, exist in the midst of intellectual confusion and error. We see now “through a darkened glass”, but at the same time are instructed to “be perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect”. So, in what follows, I in no way intend to detract from the sainthood or martyrdom of St. Maximillian. There have been many saints whose theologies were in error. I have several times in my writings mentioned St. Maximus the Confessor who, for instance, taught that original sin consisted in man turning to sexual reproduction and away from God’s original method of creating the first man. Similarly, eastern Fathers such as Saints Gregory of Nyssa and Basil taught that God only created the division of sexes in “prevision of sin”.

Much of the “off-base” theology I sense in Franciscan theology is centered upon convincing us that their theology surpasses St. Thomas in insight and profundity. And in so doing, they directly or indirectly violate the metaphysics of St. Thomas, which as Pope Pius X said, “places them in grave danger”.

Much of this attempt to in some way denigrate and surpass Thomas in the realm of theology is centered upon Mariology. It of course requires the invention of new terminology. Thus, in St. Maximillian’s writings, Mary is a “quasi-Incarnation of the Holy Spirit”, and of course the Holy Spirit must be the “uncreated Immaculate Conception”. Both of these terms I find inadequately explained or justified in his writings. What possible intellectual clarification can come, for instance, through the term quasi-Incarnation? By its very definition, the word “Incarnation” as applied to God applies only to the complete union of the divine Nature of the Second Person of the Trinity with a human nature in the One Divine Person of Jesus Christ. Is there any sense, after the Immaculate Conception, in which we can validly consider that Mary is only One Divine Person (the Holy Spirit) possessing two natures?

This of course has led to even further excesses which are the logical end points of such theology. Articles have recently appeared in MI, for instance, telling us that Mary was transubstantiated into the Holy Spirit. Here, of course, we have a very thinly disguised attack upon Thomistic metaphysics, and its absolute necessity for the Catholic Dogma of Transubstantiation. Transubstantiation absolutely requires the complete change of the entire substance of one substance into another, the accidens alone remaining. Are we supposed to believe that after the Immaculate Conception, all that remains of Mary was her accidens? The soul of Mary would thus be “lost”. Interestingly, Duns Scotus, in his writings, rejected the true meaning of Transubstantiation, and only submitted nominally to the teaching of the Fourth Lateran Council on this matter. It is also interesting that Pope Pius IX in his defining of the Immaculate Conception of Mary, never credits Duns Scotus, despite the fact that he is popularly given sole credit for making possible on a theological grounds the Definition of the Immaculate Conception by Pius IX.

It is also true that St. Maximillian claims a vast superiority for his claim of Mary being a Quasi-Incarnation of the Holy Spirit over her title as “Spouse of the Holy Spirit”. He states: “He [the Holy Spirit] penetrated her being to such depths that to call her the spouse of the Holy Spirit is to use a pale, distant, most inadequate (even though correct) comparison to express their union.” He in fact states that this concept of “Spouse of the Holy Spirit” was merely a “moral union”, vastly inferior to what he was proposing, and he of course also thus denigrates the teaching of St. Louis de Montfort, for whom this concept of “Spouse of the Holy Spirit” was at the very core of Mary’s glory. He might have considered otherwise if he had truly meditated on the following:

“Let us be glad and rejoice, and give glory to him; for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath prepared herself.” (Apoc. 19: 7).

There is no higher expression possible in human language than the concept of a spousal love and union between God and man.

It is at this point that we come down to the core of what is wrong with Franciscan spirituality. It is tainted with the Gnostic attempt to confuse and unite Divine and created being. We rightly speak of human divinization, including the divinization of human beings such as ourselves who are vastly inferior to Mary. But this divinization is accomplished, as St. Thomas so adamantly points out, not through union or confusion of Divine and created being, but through vision (“We shall be like to Him; because we shall see Him as He is” – 1 John 3:2) and love. The glory of Mary therefore lies not in any such confusion of divine and human through some sort of quasi-incarnation, but though that fully human, but singular, cooperation and submission to the extraordinary grace of God called the Grace of Glory, by which she was lifted up to union with God through Vision and Love of His Essence. And this, of course, also detracts nothing from the fact that the grace she received through her Immaculate Conception did indeed far surpass all the saints and angels. Interestingly, anything either more or less than this lessens Mary as either the glory of the human race or the created masterpiece of God. And I need add that nothing I have said here detracts either from the fact that Mary for all eternity has existed in the mind of God as the Mother of God and Mediatrix of all graces (Proverbs 8, and much elsewhere), or that we need to consecrate ourselves totally to Jesus through her.

Having said all this, it should be suspected that such Franciscan confusion in regard to the human and divine is rooted is some sort of derivation from Gnosticism, and especially that syncretization of Christianity with Gnosticism which is called Neo-Platonism. The very essence of Neo-Platonism’s “mixing” of the human and divine always come to nest in some sort of “emanation and return”. Such, for instance was completely true of St. Bonaventure (as examined below). But it is also a more-diluted theme in St. Maximillian’s writings. Thus, he writes:

Everywhere in this world we notice action and the reaction which is equal but contrary to it; we find departure and return, going away and coming back, separation and reunion. The separation always looks forward to union, which is creative. All this is simply an image of the Blessed Trinity in the activity of creatures. Union means love, creative love. Divine activity, outside the Trinity itself, follows a like pattern. First God creates the universe: - that is something like a separation. Creatures, by following the natural law given to them by God, reach their perfection, become like him and go back to him. Intelligent creatures love him in a conscious matter; through this love they unite themselves more and more closely with him, and so find their way back to him.”

Creation is not a separation from God. Coming from the act of God which is creation ex nihilo, created thing are a totally gratuitous “coming into being” which is not a separation from God. The concept of “return” is certainly valid from a Christian standpoint because of man’s Fall, and turning away from God. But creation itself cannot be inherently considered a separation from and return to God without implicitly or explicitly inserting some sort of necessity upon God in this cyclic process. And this is precisely what St. Maximillian does when he says that this cycle of departure and return is “simply an image of the Blessed Trinity in the activity of creatures in the very act of creation itself. There was no necessity in God or in His image of Himself for man to return to Him in that completely exalted and gratuitous grace of the Beatific Vision. In other words, St. Maximillian’s words here can be seen as the haunting Ghost of Neo-Platonism.

Finally, we must note that all of St. Maximillian’s recurring thinking and writing on this subject grew out of his attempt to make sense of Mary’s definition of herself at Lourdes as “The Immaculate Conception”. I believe that he was right in considering that this was not same as saying “I was immaculately conceived”. But the answer to this dilemma lies not in using such confusing language such as “quasi-incarnate” – language which blurs the absolutely necessary distinction between divine and created being, but rather in seeing that for all eternity through the eternal design of God all of the elect are conceived, nurtured, and formed in her spiritual womb – Her Immaculate Heart – into the likeness of her Son Jesus. She is in other words the “place” of all rebirth and “immaculate conception” in God. As I have said elsewhere, just as Jesus was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and formed as the God-Man in the womb of Mary, so all of the faithful are conceived by the Holy Spirit in baptism and formed into the likeness of Jesus within Mary’s Immaculate Heart. This has been explored in our article The Fifth Glorious Mystery.

St. Bonaventure:

*St. Bonaventure, while not to be considered in the extreme camp of an Eriugena or Eckhardt, yet rejected Aristotelian-Thomistic metaphysics (and therefore the only real foundation of the doctrine creation ex nihilo), and quite emphatically conceived of creation as emanation from God, Thus, from his writings, “This is our entire metaphysics: emanation, exemplarity, and consummation, that is, to be illumined by rays of spiritual light and to return to the Most High.” (Collationes in Hexaemeron) .

 

The overt pantheism of an Eriugena or Eckhardt is readily condemned by the Church. But the vast extent of Gnostic-type thinking is not usually expressed in such extremes, but rather comes in more “diffused” forms, penetrating deeply into the heart of the Church through men who have reputations of sanctity, and even sainthood, but whose theology is permeated with Gnostic sentiments. St. Bonaventure, in his rejection of Thomistic-Aristotelian metaphysics, and his embrace of Platonic-inspired theology, is a premier example. This is such an important point for understanding the depths of penetration of Gnostic theology and spirituality into Western theology that we offer the following explication of Bonaventure’s view of creation as given by Zachary Hayes (The History of Franciscan Theology, Franciscan Institute, 2007), and confirmed by many other Franciscan scholars:

In the first book of his Sentence Commentary Bonaventure expressed a vision of creation that remained with him until the end of his life. Drawing on and expanding the scriptural image (Eccles 1:7) of a river which flows from a spring, spreads throughout the land to purify and fructify it, and eventually flows back to its point of origin, Bonaventure presents the outline of his entire theological vision. In sum, the contours of the Christian faith are cast within the neo-Platonic circle of emanation, exemplarity, and return as this philosophical metaphor is reshaped by the Christian vision of faith.” (p. 61-62).

There are at least two things very disturbing about all this, both of which are centered in the Gnostic, Neo-Platonic concept of the circle of emanation and return.

The word emanation, when used in any way to describe the essential relationship between created realities and God, necessarily carries overtones of Gnosticism and Pantheism, no matter what gyrations one passes through in order to “Christianize” it. The word itself connotes “to come forth from, or issue from something else as a source”. It is impossible to find a good definition of this word without encountering both these elements: “coming forth from” and “source.” Emanation is the classic word used to describe the pantheistic coming out of all finite realities from the Monad or Godhead. It may disingenuously be used in such a way as to try to identify it with creation ex nihilo, using the rationale that this is justifiable because the created thing did not exist before this time and was therefore “nothing.” But this simply doesn’t work. The act of creation is not a movement out from the ontological Being of God, but rather an act extrinsic to God’s Supreme Being by which He exercises His infinite power and intelligence to create truly from nothing. It is this which is denied in the concept of emanation.

The second element in St. Bonaventure’s disturbing theology and cosmology is the circular concept of emanation and return – also a concept profoundly integral to Gnosticism. It necessitates the concept of evolution – a word the etymology of which is very close to that of emanation. It literally means to “roll out.” What it entails in Bonaventure’s metaphysics and cosmology is an ascending growth in the status of human nature itself through an evolving process of emanation and return. In Bonaventure’s metaphysics, this demands a view of the soul which negates the unchangeable substantial form of the soul. He certainly taught that the soul was created in the image of God, but this image is set upon a path of historical development by the dynamics of historical, evolutionary ascent through multiple forms.

St. Thomas embraced the hylomorphic constitution of any and all created substances, such that any individual substance is the result of the Divine act of creating from nothing – this act involving the union of prime matter with one substantial form. From this substantial view of the human soul ensues, as I have already pointed out, his doctrine concerning the unity of the soul, and the non-evolutionary status of human nature at all points of human history.

Bonaventure, on the other hand, rejected this unicity of substantial form, and posited what is called “universal hylomorphism.”  Again, from Zachary Hayes:

Instead of accepting the doctrine of the unity of form, Bonaventure drew from R. Grosseteste and the Oxford Franciscans a form of light-metaphysics. According to this view, creatures are, indeed, composed of matter and form, but not necessarily of a single form. According to Bonaventure, the first form of all corporal beings is the form of light. Light in this instance is designated by the Latin word lux and is distinguished from lumen (radiation) and color (the empirical form in which light is perceived).”

In other words, we are here dealing with a spiritual “light” which emanates from God (and specifically, in Bonaventure’s metaphysics, from Christ) which is the moving force in the cycle of emanation and return. Even physical matter, according to Bonaventure, possesses to some degree this lux.

Hayes continues his analysis:

This theory of light implies a rejection of the Aristotelian theory of the unity of form which would be favored by Aquinas [not just “favored,” but absolutely integral to Thomistic metaphysics]. In fact, Bonaventure argued in favor of a plurality of forms in a position similar to that of Avicenna, Avicebron, and Albert the Great. If light is understood to be the first and most general form, then, besides light, each individual being has a special form. It follows that each being has at least these two forms [and human beings have at least three forms, since Bonaventure denies that the soul can be the substantial form of the body, a position which he labeled as “insane”]. The theory of the plurality of forms in Bonaventure involves a distinct understanding of the function of form. The function of form is not merely to give rise to one specific being [in other words, it does not serve to determine an essence which remains substantially unchanged through all “accidental” change]. But precisely in forming a specific being, it prepares or disposes matter for new possibilities. There is, indeed, such a thing as a final form. But this is arrived at only at the end of a process involving a multiplicity of forms along the way.”

Put simply, Bonaventure’s theology and metaphysics entails that the human soul itself is involved in an historical, evolutionary process. Bonaventure adopted Joachim of Fiore’s view of the seven stages of human development and history. This is why he compromised and betrayed St. Francis way of Poverty. It simply could not be lived by the Franciscan Order as a whole until the Seventh (Seraphic) Age.

St. Francis, on the other hand, possessed the simplicity and trueness of heart to understand that the full living of his way of Lady Poverty did not require an historical evolutionary process to come to fruition, but could and should be lived by all his friars right then and now. It simply required a return to his Rule. His implicit theology and metaphysics were therefore not that of Bonaventure, but rather that of St. Thomas.

Human nature does not evolve. The nature, the choice, and the possibilities are the same for any man or woman at any point on the historical timeline. Any application of an evolutionary dialectic to understanding either the Nature of God or the nature of man is totally false, and destructive to both the unchangeable Nature of God and the integrity and continuity of human nature.

 

 

Ratzinger was trying to get out of the Kant trap, while rejecting Thomism

Fred,

 I agree. Ratzinger was trying to get out of the Kant trap, while
 rejecting Thomism, and this because of his surrender to reductive
 science. I read the piece you sent. It is so much like thousands of
 other pages he wrote - bouncing from one confused modern philosopher
 to another, juxtaposing them, and ending up with nothing. It draws
 forth the image of a man slushing through a swamp futilely searching
 for clean and refreshing water, while 200 feet away there is a hill
 offering an artesian spring of pure, living water. Most disturbing,
 however, is the fact that he always comes across as believing that all
 this is a necessary and worthwhile endeavor. There is not even any
 honest sign of desperation. That, to me, is what is really scary about
 him. He should be weeping and loudly crying out for help.

 Great article  I agree with most of it.


 Good tracing back beyond even Ockham of Kant and Hegel to heretical
 Platonism. I agree that Ratzinger was a Hegelian and Teihardian , but he
 was
 moving away from Kantianism from which comes Hegel  both of which come
 from
 Ockham and as you traced all the way back to heretical Platonism.

 I think Ratzinger was a confused thinker attempting to get out of the
 Kant
 trap who never was able to  get out of the H and T trap as was Sheen.

 Sheen and Ratzinger it appears too me were attempting to be orthodox
 Catholics despite deeply flawed philosophy whereas Francis is not making
 an
 attempt to be orthodox.

 In link read where Ratzinger say one can't  put praxis ahead of doctrine
as
 does Francis and  the Marxist Hegelians.
 Please read the link below.

 Fred

Four years before his death, St. Augustine wrote a book titled Retractions, in which he systematically tried to correct any errors in his previous works. At one point I had this book from the library and read some of it, and somewhere commented on it. But I cannot find those comments (they might have been in an email). Much of his retractions concerned his thinking immersed in Platonism and Neo-Platinism. I do remember being critical, because I did not think that he had truly freed his thinking from these errors. I also remember that this focused especially on the question of God's omnipresence, and that he still was infected with Neo-Platonism in this regard. This in turn means that he did not truly comprehend the Thomistic teaching in regard to creation ex nihilo, and the distinction between substantial and accidental being. And this in turn entails that his thinking in regard to God's omnipresence was still infected with a kind of pantheistic gnosticism. 

As has been said, St. Augustine did not have a philosophy (especially metaphysics and ontology) worthy of his theology. Because of the complexity of this subject, I have never had much desire to deal with St. Augustine and his role in the subsequent history of Catholic thought. One thing is clear - those who reject Thomistic metaphysics also follow a train that leads back through people like Joseph Ratzinger, de Lubac, von Balthasar, Bonaventure, and St. Augustine. All of this "softens" that absolute distinction which must be made between God and His creation, and of course leads to all sorts of false mysticism and other errors.

As for Joseph Ratzinger and what he said at Regensburg, he subsequently refuted the notion that he himself embraced what he quoted from the Emperor Paleologus, stating that his (the Emperor's) words in regard to Islam "do not at all express my thoughts". There is no way I can envision him standing up to Islam. He does indeed believe that Christianisty is a religion in which God possesses a specific "Nature" (as opposed to the "Voluntarism" of Allah); but as explored in my writings, he also believes that from any human standpoint and approach to God, this must be expressed in terms of" contradictories" (explored in my article The Quintessential Evolutionist). Any embrace of Benedict XVI of Thomas, especially of his theology and metaphysics, is therefore an illusion. 

Hope these meager comments help.

                                                                                                      
You wrote somewhere of the ancient forebarer of Kantian philosophy. Can you send me a link or tell where to look. Also, have you read any of Fr. Most's books. He shows why St. Augustine has caused so many problems partly because he didn't know Greek and because he agrued in conflicting ways to his own positions when arguing with different heretics. I also think as you do Platonism (which Augustine held) without the Church modify it leads to many problems. What is your take on Augustine? 

This link shows Benedict pointing to Thomism, but as you say he is a confused thinker unlike Francis who is a pure Modernist.

Thanks,

Fred



It seems possible because Pope Benedict XVI was to some extent at war with leftist liberal theorists of whom Francis appears to be a disciple and their ally Islam before his resignation?

English professor Louis Markos in his book Lewis Agonistes shows that Nominalist liberal theorists of whom Francis is apparently a disciple and Nominalist Islam are at war with reason and analogy in knowing God.

Their denial of philosophic Thomistic Analogical Realism which underpins the infallible Catholic doctrines as well as traditional art and literature with transcendent truths which is conveyed in material images reveals that they are Nominalistic Modernists.

Markos says liberals of the Enlightenment mind set believed only in materially observable “facts” and denied the existence of “transcendent truths in material images” be it philosophy, art, literature or God.

Postmodernist liberals such Michael de Certeau who Francis called the "greatest theologian for today" took it a step forward by proclaiming that not only is God dead, but language is dead. They believe that words have no meaning.

Liberal theorist's thought in history brought humanity Communism and Fascism with their violence against human life. Lenin and Castro were Enlightenment men and Hitler was a follower of the proto postmodernist Nietzsche. Pro-choicer are also followers of Nietzsche’s will to power.

Nominalist Islam showed its alliance with Nominalist liberal theorists when they firebombed and shoot bullet holes through Christian churches in West Bank, killed an Italian nun and threatened to bomb the Vatican with a suicide attack when Pope Benedict XVI gave the September 12 called FAITH, REASON AND THE UNIVERSITY. MEMORIES AND REFLECTIONS. In that talk he said:

“The decisive statement in this argument against violent conversion is this: not to act in accordance with reason is contrary to God’s nature. The editor, Theodore Khoury, observes: For the emperor, as a Byzantine shaped by Greek philosophy, this statement is self-evident. But for Muslim teaching, God is absolutely transcendent. His will is not bound up with any of our categories, even that of rationality.”

“Here Khoury quotes a work of the noted French Islamist R. Arnaldez, who points out that Ibn Hazn went so far as to state that God is not bound even by his own word, and that nothing would oblige him to reveal the truth to us. Were it God’s will, we would even have to practise idolatry.”

The pope in the lecture countered this anti-analogy theories which ultimately deny transcendent truth by saying:

“As opposed to this, the faith of the Church has always insisted that between God and us, between his eternal Creator Spirit and our created reason there exists a real analogy, in which unlikeness remains infinitely greater than likeness, yet not to the point of abolishing analogy and its language (cf. Lateran IV). God does not become more divine when we push him away from us in a sheer, impenetrable voluntarism; rather, the truly divine God is the God who has revealed himself as “logos” and, as “logos,” has acted and continues to act lovingly on our behalf. Certainly, love "transcends" knowledge and is thereby capable of perceiving more than thought alone (cf. Eph 3:19); nonetheless it continues to be love of the God who is “logos.” Consequently, Christian worship is “spiritual” worship in harmony with the eternal Word and with our reason (cf. Rom 12:1).”

Pray Francis, Islam and liberals be converted to Pope Benedict's philosophical teaching on Thomistic analogy and reason which is the underpinning of Catholic infallible teachings of the Eternal Word.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church as well as for the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

 

 

 

Thursday, September 17, 2020

Chapter 5 Was John Paul II a Thomist or a Kantian Phenomenologist?

 "[T]he [Kantian/Modernist] Blondelian schema holds that justification for the faith is to be found by turning inwards to the personal experience of the human subject. This turn to the subject is characteristic of modern philosophy, from Descartes right up to the Idealism of Kant and Hegel and beyond, and presented a major challenge to the traditional Catholic apologetics... If it were the case that inner experience justified the faith, if each person was to find the proof of God’s existence within their own life, then what would be the basis for the teaching authority of the Church?"
- Liberal AnthonyCarroll  [https://www.thinkingfaith.org/articles/20090724_1.htm]

Scholar Douglas Flippen in the philosophical article "Was John Paul II a Thomist or a [Kantian] Phenomenologist?" gives an intellectual history of  Pope John Paul II (Karol Wojtyla). He show how Kantian philosophy mostly in the form of the Kantian philosopher Max Scheler's phenomenology became important to him.

After reading Flippen and other scholars it appears that Wojtyla's attempt to mix Thomist's metaphysics of objective reality and being with the Kantian Scheler subjectivist thought lead to things like the disastrous "ecumenical" Assisi "prayer meeting" and many of the other problematic actions of his pontificate. 

Flippin shows the Kantian influences on Wojtyla:

"Father Wojtyla lived at the Belgian college in Rome and the center for... Transcendental Thomism... so called because its approach to the thought of St. Thomas is influenced by the transcendental system of philosophy of Immanuel Kant..."

" ... After earning a second doctorate with a thesis on the ethics of the [Kantian] phenomenologist Max Scheler, Father Wojtyla was appointed in 1954 to the philosophy department of the Catholic University of Lublin..." [https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8105]

Scholar Flippen gives an exact time when Wojtyla started thinking that Kantian philosophy became possibly as important as Thomism. He thought that Kant's thought could make up for "a certain lack in the approach of " Thomism. The supposedly solid Thomist Etienne Gilson turned him towards Kant:

"It seems likely that at this time Father Wojtyla would have become more aware of different approaches to the thought of St. Thomas. The reason for this is not only the fact that he was studying at the Angelicum with Father Garrigou-Lagrange, called a traditionalist Thomist for his approach to Thomas through the tradition of the commentaries of Cajetan and John of St. Thomas, but also because Jacques Maritain and Etienne Gilson, the two most famous [supposed] Thomists of the twentieth century, had been active in promoting the thought of Thomas since the 1920s, and this would hardly have escaped notice at the Angelicum. Both Gilson and Maritain, but especially Gilson, could be called historic or existential Thomists because of their interest in recovering the authentic thought of Thomas and because of their conviction that the historic thought of Thomas centered itself on the act of existing as being at the heart of reality..."

"... Father, and then Bishop, Wojtyla lectured at Lublin from 1954 until 1961. In this period of time his understanding and appreciation of the metaphysical approach of St. Thomas increased. This was due not only to his own continuing work on St. Thomas, but also to his interaction with a colleague named Stefan Swiezawski. As George Weigel notes in his biography of John Paul II, "Through faculty colleagues at KUL, and especially Stefan Swiezawski, Wojtyla had his first serious encounter with Etienne Gilson's historical rereading of Thomas Aquinas and with Jacques Maritain's modern Thomistic reading of Catholic social ethics."8 During this period, Father Wojtyla published a number of essays, many of them taking into account the thought of St. Thomas and comparing it favorably with modern thinkers. And yet there is a change of tone in his treatment of the thought of St. Thomas during this period. In the beginning, his praise of Thomas seems unqualified. Toward the end we find criticisms of a certain lack in the approach of Thomas and an emphasis on a positive contribution coming from the phenomenological movement. (Was John Paul II a Thomist or a Phenomenologist?: https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8105)

Wikipedia gives a very rough (not exact) idea of what so-called "existential Thomists" such as Gilson (and Maritain) meant when they falsely claimed "the historic thought of Thomas centered itself on the act of existing as being at the heart of reality":

"The proposition that existence precedes essence (French: l'existence précède l'essence) is a central claim of existentialism, which reverses the traditional philosophical view that the essence (the nature) of a thing is more fundamental and immutable than its existence (the mere fact of its being).[1] To existentialists, human beings—through their consciousness—create their own values and determine a meaning for their life because the human being does not possess any inherent identity or value. That identity or value must be created by the individual. By posing the acts that constitute them, they make their existence more significant.[2][3]

"The idea can be found in the works of philosopher Søren Kierkegaard in the 19th century,[4] but was explicitly formulated by philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre in the 20th century. The three-word formula originated in his 1945[5] lecture "Existentialism Is a Humanism",[6] though antecedent notions can be found in Heidegger's Being and Time.[7]" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_precedes_essence]

Sadly, Wojtyla trusted that dishonest "existential Thomist"Gilson's "rereading of Thomas Aquinas" was true. It was not Thomism. Renowned Thomist Dr. Ralph McInerny shows in detail in his book ""praeambula fidei : Thomism and the God of the Philosophers" the deception of Gilson: 

"Gilson's about the passage of [Thomist] Cajetan... when Thomas says that esse [existence] is the actuality of all things, even of forms. Gilson asserts that this is a novelty, unknown to Aristotle... Gilson's attack on Cajetan is one aspect of his criticism of Aristotle... is seen from the angle of Gilson's increasingly inventive interpretation of esse [existence]... it is... painfully clear that he is out to make a case against [Thomist] Cajetan and fairness to the great commentator [of Thomas] will not characterize his criticism... For now, consider what he stresses: a substance as Thomas understands it can only be the term of generation, as it is, because it has its own act of existing... Being is the term of a generation; that which is generated exists thanks to that process of generation. Surely, Gilson does not mean to suggest that something is generated and then receives an act of existence. Or is he suggesting that existent things are not the terms of generation for Aristotle... " 

"... the Gilsonian attack on Cardinal Cajetan... is embarrassing to read this... attack [on] one of the giants of the Thomistic school... Cajetan... [and Thomist] Garrigou-Lagrange is demonized by Gilson and Maritain... It is possible that those he criticized got it right [on Thomas] and that he got it wrong..."

"...Gilson makes his own the position of Kant that existence is not a predicate... Gilson wrote...'Being,' Kant says 'is evidently not a predicate or a concept of  something that can be added to a thing'... What is the Thomististicity of Gilson's claim..."   

"... [W]hat he [Gilson] is attributing to Thomas is not found in Thomas... 'No Thomist,' Gilson concedes, 'aiming to express it, should write that existence (esse) is not known by a concept.' Coming from a historian [Gilson] who has been so severe on other interpreters of Thomas [such as Cajetan and Garrigou-Lagrange], it is somewhat disarming to be told that 'historically speaking, our [Gilson's] formulas are inaccurate' and that he should have made clear that he was not using the language of Saint Thomas." ("praeambula fidei : Thomism and the God of the Philosophers," page 52-54,68, 152-153)

The deceptive Gilson who is called by many "the chief scholar of Aquinas in the 20th century" not only mislead John Paul II, but most of the orthodox (even some traditionalists) Catholics to accept the equally dishonest or simply poor scholar Henri de Lubac who made the false claim that Thomas Aquinas didn't make a distinction between nature and the supernatural grace. 

As one reads the scholar McInerny's "praeambula fidei" it is obvious that he considers Gilson a real scholar who was dishonest in his discourses on Cajetan and Aquinas while he doesn't, it seems, appear to consider de Lubac "orthodox" or a much of a scholar:

"'Supernatural' brought de Lubac... silenced... eventually De Lubac learned that it had been other Jesuits, not Dominicans, who had questioned the the orthodoxy of his views... If de Lubac got Cajetan's reading of St. Thomas wrong, what is to be said of De Lubac's own understanding of Thomas." ("praeambula fidei," Pages 70, 84)

The point is, as McInerny shows in his book, that Gilson and de Lubac were a team who worked to discredit Cajetan and ultimately St. Thomas' real teachings. The poor scholar de Lubac needed Gilson's reputation  as a honest scholar to cover for his "question[able]... orthodoxy" and dishonest or poor scholarship. 

It can be argued that part of what the nouvelle theologian de Lubac's teaching has done is replace the infallible teachings of the Church with Kantian dogma in which all human experience (pagan, heretical, mundane, etc...) is equally redemptive to the grace and teachings given to us by Jesus Christ's Incarnation, Passion and Resurrection as taught by the Church He established:

"The rejection of the proportionate human nature separate de Lubac more decisively from St. Thomas than anything else, doubtless because this rejection is at the basis of his thought... Grace, as the words suggests, is gratuitous, unowed, above and beyond what our nature is naturally ordered to. The supernatural, as the word suggests, is added onto natural... In de Lubac's account... [it] is almost as if for him the supernatural replaces the natural." ( "praeambula fidei," Pages 85-860)

It might better be said that de Lubac's teachings replaced the supernatural with the natural.

Thomist scholar Taylor Marshall, in the best paragraph of his book "Infiltration," summarized what nouvelle theologians like de Lubac did:

"They [nouvelle theologians] sought to make everything grace, and by doing so, they, in fact, reduced everything to the natural, so that the natural longings [human experiences] of every human became the means of salvation. Hence, all human nature itself is "open" to attaining salvation. This means that liturgy should be less supernatural and that other religions are 'open' as means of salvation. This theology necessitates a new liturgy, a new ecumenism, and a new form of Catholicism. It is Freemasonic naturalism cloaked with quotations of the Church Fathers. The nouvelle theologie was a frontal attack on Thomas Aquinas." ("Infiltration," Page 135)

Pope John Paul II's Vatican II attempt to mix Thomist's metaphysics of objective reality with the Kantian subjectivist thought lead to things like the disastrous "ecumenical" Assisi "prayer meeting" and many of the other problematic actions of his pontificate, but kept intact, for the most part, the moral and dogmatic teachings of the Church. 

Unfortunately, Francis's apparently pure Kantian/Modernist subjectivist theology unmixed with Thomist's metaphysics is bringing about " a new form of Catholicism. It is Freemasonic naturalism cloaked with quotations of the Church Fathers... a frontal attack on Thomas Aquinas." This theology appears to be leading to his attack on the moral and dogmatic teachings of the Church.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Mass and the Church as well as for the Triumph of the Kingdom of the Sacred Heart of Jesus and the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

Wednesday, September 9, 2020

Was John Paul a Kantian?

Scholar Douglas Flippen in the philosophical article "Was John Paul II a Thomist or a [Kantian] Phenomenologist?" gives an intellectual history of  Karol Wojtyla. He show how Kantian philosophy mostly in the form of the Kantian philosopher Max Scheler's phenomenology became important to him.

After reading Flippen and other scholars it appears that Wojtyla's attempt to mix Thomist's metaphysics of objective reality and being with the Kantian Scheler subjectivist thought lead to things like the disastrous "ecumenical" Assisi "prayer meeting" and many of the other problematic actions of his pontificate. 

Flippin shows the Kantian influences on Wojtyla:

"Father Wojtyla lived at the Belgian college in Rome and the center for... Transcendental Thomism... so called because its approach to the thought of St. Thomas is influenced by the transcendental system of philosophy of Immanuel Kant..."

" ... After earning a second doctorate with a thesis on the ethics of the [Kantian] phenomenologist Max Scheler, Father Wojtyla was appointed in 1954 to the philosophy department of the Catholic University of Lublin..." [https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8105]

Scholar Flippen gives an exact time when Wojtyla started thinking that Kantian philosophy became possibly as important as Thomism. He thought that Kant's thought could make up for "a certain lack in the approach of " Thomism. The supposedly solid Thomist Etienne Gilson turned him towards Kant:

"It seems likely that at this time Father Wojtyla would have become more aware of different approaches to the thought of St. Thomas. The reason for this is not only the fact that he was studying at the Angelicum with Father Garrigou-Lagrange, called a traditionalist Thomist for his approach to Thomas through the tradition of the commentaries of Cajetan and John of St. Thomas, but also because Jacques Maritain and Etienne Gilson, the two most famous [supposed] Thomists of the twentieth century, had been active in promoting the thought of Thomas since the 1920s, and this would hardly have escaped notice at the Angelicum. Both Gilson and Maritain, but especially Gilson, could be called historic or existential Thomists because of their interest in recovering the authentic thought of Thomas and because of their conviction that the historic thought of Thomas centered itself on the act of existing as being at the heart of reality..."

"... Father, and then Bishop, Wojtyla lectured at Lublin from 1954 until 1961. In this period of time his understanding and appreciation of the metaphysical approach of St. Thomas increased. This was due not only to his own continuing work on St. Thomas, but also to his interaction with a colleague named Stefan Swiezawski. As George Weigel notes in his biography of John Paul II, "Through faculty colleagues at KUL, and especially Stefan Swiezawski, Wojtyla had his first serious encounter with Etienne Gilson's historical rereading of Thomas Aquinas and with Jacques Maritain's modern Thomistic reading of Catholic social ethics."8 During this period, Father Wojtyla published a number of essays, many of them taking into account the thought of St. Thomas and comparing it favorably with modern thinkers. And yet there is a change of tone in his treatment of the thought of St. Thomas during this period. In the beginning, his praise of Thomas seems unqualified. Toward the end we find criticisms of a certain lack in the approach of Thomas and an emphasis on a positive contribution coming from the phenomenological movement. (Was John Paul II a Thomist or a Phenomenologist?: https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=8105)

Wikipedia gives a summary of what so-called "existential Thomists" such as Gilson (and Maritain) meant when they falsely claimed "the historic thought of Thomas centered itself on the act of existing as being at the heart of reality":

"The proposition that existence precedes essence (French: l'existence précède l'essence) is a central claim of existentialism, which reverses the traditional philosophical view that the essence (the nature) of a thing is more fundamental and immutable than its existence (the mere fact of its being).[1] To existentialists, human beings—through their consciousness—create their own values and determine a meaning for their life because the human being does not possess any inherent identity or value. That identity or value must be created by the individual. By posing the acts that constitute them, they make their existence more significant.[2][3]

"The idea can be found in the works of philosopher Søren Kierkegaard in the 19th century,[4] but was explicitly formulated by philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre in the 20th century. The three-word formula originated in his 1945[5] lecture "Existentialism Is a Humanism",[6] though antecedent notions can be found in Heidegger's Being and Time.[7]" [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existence_precedes_essence]

Sadly,  Wojtyla trusted that dishonest "existential Thomist"Gilson's "rereading of Thomas Aquina" was true. It was not Thomism. Renowned Thomist Dr. Ralph McInerny shows the dishonesty: 

"Gilson's about the passage of [Thomist] Cajetan... when Thomas says that esse [essence] is the actuality of all things, even of forms. Gilson asserts that this is a novelty, unknown to Aristotle... Gilson's attack on Cajetan is one aspect of his criticism of Aristotle... is seen from the angle of Gilson's increasingly inventive interpretation of esse [essence]... it is... painfully clear that he is out to make a case against [Thomist] Cajetan and fairness to the great commentator [of Thomas] will not characterize his criticism..." 

"[W]hat he [Gilson] is attributing to Thomas is not found in Thomas... he should [have] made clear that he was not using the language of Saint Thomas." ("praeambula fidei : Thomism and the God of the Philosphers," page 52-53, 153)

 

 

The Remnant newspaper recently appears to be saying that Francis is the same as Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI which I will attempt to show is inaccurate. However, the newspaper is right in saying that the Vatican II's ambiguities which were a forerunner of Amoris Laetitia's ambiguity lead to false ecumenism within the Church and outside.

Strangely, the non-traditionalist conservative Matthew Schmitz put it best:

"[T]he post-Vatican II settlement [of]... Upholding Catholic teaching on paper but not in reality as led to widespread corruption... a culture of lies... that allowed men like McCarrick to flourish."

It allowed the Church of John Paul II and Benedict XVI to keep heretics and homosexual predators in the hierarchy such as McCarrick and others like him to flourish and to promote neo-sacrilegious media productions such as the Assisi fiasco and the kissing of the Koran.

This was wrong and God will judge them for their failures to be good fathers (popes) in allowing evil men into God's Church to abuse and to lead many to indifferentism and away from salvation which is only in Jesus through His Church.

Both sincerely in my opinion because of false philosophical personal ideas while not totally abandoning Thomism tried to do the practically almost impossible task of being loyal to the infallible teachings of the Church while holding on to neo-modernist Personalist versions of Kantian and Hegelian philosophy as well as the ambiguities of Vatican II.

Benedict if you read his later writings finally rejected Kantianism, but apparently couldn't completely give up Hegelianism.

However, he realized in a vague way that the ambiguity of Vatican II was destroying the Church so he brought back the Traditional Latin Mass and attempted to fight against sex abuse, the Vatican gay lobby and reform the finances to the Church.

Unfortunately, in my opinion, these efforts united the financially corrupt old guard of Cardinal Angelo Sodano and the Vatican gay lobby which brought about Vatileaks and other pressures against Benedict that eventually lead to the Benedict resignation and the papacy of Jorge Bergoglio whose pontifical validity has been questioned by many even in the hierarchy from the beginning to this day.

As Bishop René Gracida has said there was never universal acceptance of Bergoglio by the Church.

But even more importantly, there are reasonable doubts about the validity of Benedict's resignation and Bergoglio's lawful election to the papacy which were never present with the other papacies which Bishop Gracida declares must be investigated and interpreted by the cardinals as John Paul's conclave constitution explicitly states.

This is one reason that Francis is not the same as Benedict and John Paul.

The other reason that The Remnant is wrong about apparently recently saying Francis is the same as Benedict and John Paul can be put simply in analogy:

John Paul and Benedict were sincere doctors with medicine that was getting the patient sicker.

Benedict realized the medicine was bad and slowly started giving good medicine.

But in my opinion, Francis is a doctor who is trying to kill the patient by slow poisoning.

In my opinion, it is obvious that Francis doesn't have even a remnant of Thomism. Nor does he apparently care about being loyal to the infallible Church teachings. He appears to be a nihilistic postmodernist like his favorite theologian Michel de Certeau.

Francis's only grasp of reality or meaning appears to be leftist and Peronist ideology as well as his close friend the kissing bishop's Bernard Haring Hegelian situation ethics all dressed in religious language.

While Benedict and John Paul upheld Church teachings on paper while not always in reality, Francis with Amoris Laetitia, the Argentine letter, the death penalty Catechism change and the latest indifferentism papal statement isn't even upholding the infallible teachings on paper.

George Gilder wrote a book called "Sexual Suicide" which helped me return to the Church because it showed that the Catholic teachings on sexuality were true and those outside those teachings were committing slow suicide.

Francis in my opinion is trying to kill the Church by slow suicide.

He will not succeed because Jesus promised the gates of Hell will not prevail.

Those who don't oppose him in my opinion are his accomplices unless they are in invincible ignorance.

In my opinion, it appears that if Francis doesn't convert he may be heading down a path of destruction along with all his accomplices if they don't convert if they aren't in invincible ignorance.

I feel sorry for them.

We must pray for him and his accomplices, but most of all we must pray for all those abused and lead away from salvation by their promotion of heresy.

Pray an Our Father now for the restoration of the Church.